05 August, 2023

Art Duel

Do those who participate in the "Art Duel", pay any attention to the "common" word, category ? I seriously doubt even the bot that post the duels does.

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Mark Peterson 05 Aug 2023

I think the duel still has many bugs, more often than not the key words do not match up.

RQ Trietsch 06 Aug 2023

I've noticed. My complaint is based on two of my wooden sculptures that were posted, Wooden Sculptures, were paired with something that wasn't wood sculptures. One was up against a picture and another up against an abstract. Nothing even close to wood let alone sculptures

RQ Trietsch 10 Aug 2023

After 12,000+ duels, the "artwork"? leaves much to be desired.


ArtWanted.com Staff 10 Aug 2023

Thanks for your feedback and voting on the Art Duel feature, please keep it coming! It's a work in progress and we continue to work on ways to improve the artwork that is selected for each duel.

Fortunately, we save all the data for every duel has ever been created (over 455,000 duels so far), so we can review the data on the paired images, reason why they were paired, skipped duels, and what happened with the votes. This data allows us to see trends and research our algorithm that picks the images in each duel.

We can say with confidence that each duel does match the data of both images (ie subject, media, gallery or keyword). The problem we have found is that a large percent of artists are not choosing the correct information when they categorize their own images, which leads to mis-matched duels. This could be done on accident or on purpose by the artist. With almost a million images on ArtWanted, it's unrealistic for every image on the site to be reviewed and property categorized by our staff.

As far as the "quality" of the art in the art duel, we are simply selecting random images from those that have been uploaded by our members. We don't have any filters to only choose "the best" images for a duel, as this would not only be hard to determine, but is also subjective.

Due to the popularity of the Art Duel feature, we will be spending more time on this feature to improve it for everyone. Please continue to share your feedback and ideas on how it can be improved, thanks!

Fred Rousseau 19 Aug 2023

Yeah ..and Neah.Any duel on planet earth should have rules and parameters.To choose at random would never really create a good match.Both could be "vehicles" but the one could be a Mini and the other a Discovery.Both vehicles but what an unfair duel.

Lucien van Oosten 16 Sep 2023

I was thinking; Could you not set it up so that the duel selection portion looks for specific words within the information the artist gives when posting their work. Reducing the changes of pairing the dueling pieces with works that do not match. You have the categories section that could be used to do this.

A separate question, what is the difference between Ink and Pen & Ink?

thank you, Lucien


ArtWanted.com Staff 17 Sep 2023

Lucien - The art duel does exactly what you are suggesting. We find two images that match the subject, media or keywords and pair them together for a vote. The images that don't appear to match a theme, will have something in common, even if the image was mis-categorized by the artist when it was uploaded.

Ink and Pen & Ink is the same thing if that is selected for the Media on the artwork.

Lucien van Oosten 17 Sep 2023

thank you for clarification. It just seems that some of the images, in some of the duels, really do not match, and then the results seem be bad on who won. I guess depends on how the voters perceived the images to one another and the words that describe the duel. Cheers, Lucien

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